Did anyone else watch The Road to 9/11 yesterday

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:49 am

ABC mini series started last night about the events leading to 9/11. The mini-series finishes tonight. Did else anyone watch it?

I thought it was quite good, Clinton bashing and all.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:59 am

Nope...but I hear they just made a lot o that stuff up....docudramas
are kinda funny

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:03 am

tv sucks...

jr · Post by jr » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:05 am

blame the whole fucking thing on clinton...
fuck ABC

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:05 am

jr · Post by jr » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:06 am

in reality..
when the republicans went after Clinton for fucking around (which is none of their business).... they served to pull attention away from world activities... hence, put blame where blame is due...

fuck em and fuck abc

ok, i will go away from this thread now.
thanks glenn for making my blood boil
ahahha

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:08 am

jr wrote:blame the whole fucking thing on clinton...
fuck ABC

.....its censorvision.....I hate em all.The CBC is the worst.

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:18 am

...though there is a great show called "KinK" on fridays on Showcase.....no censorship and all about sexxXXXxx.....

.....the things people do to get off.....aaaaaahaha...hilarious

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:40 am

Yeah. I just wrote an anti-newscorp song. Subtle prodding at them. Ruport Murdoch would through a cow if he heard the song. Cutting edge indie pop, bring down the system from within I say.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:43 am

The Rizen shloemoe wrote:Nope...but I hear they just made a lot o that stuff up....docudramas
are kinda funny

Yeah they had a disclaimer saying some scenes & events where fictional.
Clinton looked pretty bad in it.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:44 am

I watched a pbs documentry bout Walter Cronkite....now there was journalism....beware the "networks"

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:45 am

Glenn wrote:Yeah. I just wrote an anti-newscorp song. Subtle prodding at them. Ruport Murdoch would through a cow if he heard the song. Cutting edge indie pop, bring down the system from within I say.

...you said "subtle".....why not rip them in half and do it right?

...fuck em'

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:56 am

it ripps them is half...in a subtle way...that no one will understand. That is just my style. The only person who would get it is Rupert Murdoch himeself. Will likely sail over everyone elses head. Yes, it's intellectual music.

It's not a punk song so wouldnt work like the punk way. "aaarhhh fuck newscorp!" etc.

I think it may just well become an indie pop anthem

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:43 pm

Good luck Glenn

OneOldPunk · Post by **OneOldPunk** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:41 pm

I watched the football game. The game had better ratings than that other piece of shit.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:48 pm

Glenn wrote:it ripps them is half...in a subtle way...that no one will understand. That is just my style. The only person who would get it is Rupert Murdoch himeself. Will likely sail over everyone elses head. Yes, it's intellectual music.

It's not a punk song so wouldnt work like the punk way. "aaarhhh fuck newscorp!" etc.

I think it may just well become an indie pop anthem

Murdoch says:
Listen son!... until you realize it's not about the artistry or the social conciousness...you'll never make it in this industry!... The biz is all about marketing Marketing!...do you understand?

I heard jonsey lament today that he hasn't been syndicated....bless
his idiot heart....I dont think he understands radio sometimes.....
I think that's why I USED to like him so much...but now he irritates me.
...first time I listened in months...

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:54 pm

What's wrong with syndicating his show if he can make some $$$?[/u]

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:07 pm

Glenn wrote:What's wrong with syndicating his show if he can make some $$$?[/u]

nothing!... other than you sell something in the exchange
you have contractual obligations....his "I play what I like....
You cant please everybody"....would have to change very
quickly to something else(ubruptly like)...and isn't that the
deffinition of a sell out?.....prestige and creditbilty....ZoInK!

You dont think Jonsey is riding the the crest of the new order?
...do you?...that he will reform radio?..or that radio will ever change
..he is a Market phenomena.......well enough for now...Im not
in a "stiring up mood"

...The Great Shloemoe has spoken

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:29 pm

I think I'll start my own pirate radio station.No marketing.....just good ol' fashion hard talk and pullin cock to good tunes.So be it..

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:33 pm

jr wrote:in reality..
when the republicans went after Clinton for fucking around (which is none of their business).... they served to pull attention away from world activities... hence, put blame where blame is due...

fuck em and fuck abc

ok, i will go away from this thread now.
thanks glenn for making my blood boil
ahahha

I agree with her, some of the stuf was made up too. Albright never tipped of Pakistan about the cruise missles among other things

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:06 pm

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:09 pm

obiwankobe wrote:
jr wrote:in reality..
when the republicans went after Clinton for fucking around (which is none of their business).... they served to pull attention away from world activities... hence, put blame where blame is due...

fuck em and fuck abc

ok, i will go away from this thread now.
thanks glenn for making my blood boil
ahahha

I agree with her, some of the stuf was made up too. Albright never tipped of Pakistan about the cruise missles among other things

Whatever happend to that liberal biased media The conservatives used
to complain of?

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:16 pm

rotter wrote:I think I'll start my own pirate radio station.No marketing.....just good ol' fashion hard talk and pullin cock to good tunes.So be it..

(as always in walks The Devils Advocate....HISSSSSS!)

what would your purpose be in running a pirate station rot?
If no one heard of its existance...how would they know to tune in?
would you just beem your signal to nowhere?

Marketing at its best is a legitimate form of communication(Hate having to admit that

)...at its worst it's lies and mind control....but when money and greed are in the balance...well?....it becomes a different subject?
no?

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:26 pm

Does anyone know where to buy tiger-stripe icecream?I feel like lickin a tiger.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:29 pm

Then I'd have to tune in....If I ever heard about it....I'd tune in
...What's the frequency Kenneth?

jr · Post by jr » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:42 pm

obiwankobe wrote:
jr wrote:in reality..
when the republicans went after Clinton for fucking around (which is none of their business).... they served to pull attention away from world activities... hence, put blame where blame is due...

fuck em and fuck abc

ok, i will go away from this thread now.
thanks glenn for making my blood boil
ahahha

I agree with her, some of the stuf was made up too. Albright never tipped of Pakistan about the cruise missles among other things

kenneth starr is the fucking devil. he and his republican cronies deserve a mention for a. contributing to the deficit by charging the clintons and the party with everything under the sun. b. for putting world focus on the cum stain that killed the democrats..... this ABC movie is a joke
madeline albright is NOT the twit that they make her out to be and Clinton was very conservative... so they couldnt attack him politicallly... so they hit him in the crotch...

i dont care who my president fucks.... as long as it isnt my conscious or my pocketbook. PS - MY president fucks tipper gore isnt that enough to prove i dont care who he/she sleeps with...
ABC should be ashamed.... fucking disney strikes again

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:03 pm

jr wrote:
obiwankobe wrote:
jr wrote:in reality..
when the republicans went after Clinton for fucking around (which is none of their business).... they served to pull attention away from world activities... hence, put blame where blame is due...

fuck em and fuck abc

ok, i will go away from this thread now.
thanks glenn for making my blood boil
ahahha

I agree with her, some of the stuf was made up too. Albright never tipped of Pakistan about the cruise missles among other things

kenneth starr is the fucking devil. he and his republican cronies deserve a mention for a. contributing to the deficit by charging the clintons and the party with everything under the sun. b. for putting world focus on the cum stain that killed the democrats..... this ABC movie is a joke
madeline albright is NOT the twit that they make her out to be and Clinton was very conservative... so they couldnt attack him politicallly... so they hit him in the crotch...

i dont care who my president fucks.... as long as it isnt my conscious or my pocketbook. PS - MY president fucks tipper gore isnt that enough to prove i dont care who he/she sleeps with...
ABC should be ashamed.... fucking disney strikes again

I loved The Clinton Administration!!!!....but I think getting your dick sucked in the oval office is totally disrespectful of the office of the
presidency!...and that stupid act brought real shame on his self and
the good people he assembled in his administration...Fuck he was impeached!

But who am I to cast stones?....At that time I was paying a debt to The people of California......Who'da thunk a turd could be a prude?
....but such is the complexity of he who is Shloemoe The Great!!!!!
I have spoken!!!!....why doesn't Ass make fun o me anymore?
I need to be against the grain!

...btw jr ya gotta be pretty liberal to call Clinton Conservative...he's moderate....dont trip!..I love liberals!!!!

jr · Post by jr » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:59 pm

yes getting caught with the intern was embarrassing ...
but it is infinitely more embarrassing to have to live the shame of not once but twice electing a coke whoring idiot as president to these united states. and then having to suffer through his inadequacies... the man is a complete moron.. totally void of "thinking on his feet.."

btw - clinton was pretty conservative..i didnt say totally... but he was far from left field... he was a good president.

jr · Post by jr » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:01 pm

and now back to the subject at hand...
all this 911 looking back stuff on TV... enough...
lets look forward... like.....
when are our troops coming home????
lets do a special about that.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:22 pm

jr wrote:yes getting caught with the intern was embarrassing ...
but it is infinitely more embarrassing to have to live the shame of not once but twice electing a coke whoring idiot as president to these united states. and then having to suffer through his inadequacies... the man is a complete moron.. totally void of "thinking on his feet.."

btw - clinton was pretty conservative..i didnt say totally... but he was far from left field... he was a good president.

I assume yer talkin bout bush?...yeah idiotus maximus!...glad to see sadaam get his though....isn't it anoying when it sounds like the
great shloemoe is correcting you?...BUT a Democrat who is far
from left is called a moderate(jabbin at ya!)

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:32 pm

jr wrote:and now back to the subject at hand...
all this 911 looking back stuff on TV... enough...
lets look forward... like.....
when are our troops coming home????
lets do a special about that.

(in walks The Satan of argument(fer arguments sake of course))

This is a special time in the history of the world. I wonder if it
wouldn't be better for America to consolidate it gains globally
by increasing our military power in the world?...perhaps starting
the draft again and making our enemys tremble...you know the
romans enjoyed hundreds of years of peace because they conquered
most of the "known" world (The pax Romana) We shouldn't seek war
with the nuclear countries but maybe these Islamic haters should be
"pacified"....but what do I know for I am merely "Shloemoe the Great"!!!

jr · Post by jr » Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:20 am

my point was he was right of moderate...
and no we shouldnt have the draft

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:08 am

Well I watched the conclusion and all I can say is Clinton sure fucked things up for America.

Thank God we have Bush around to fix things.

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:18 am

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:22 am

Glenn wrote:Well I watched the conclusion and all I can say is Clinton sure fucked things up for America.

Thank God we have Bush around to fix things.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:22 am

rotter wrote:

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:31 am

jr wrote:my point was he was right of moderate...
and no we shouldnt have the draft

That makes him a conservative...shloemoe could never have supported
a conservative...it just doesn't add up

With the draft...no...compulsory military service for all men and woman
ages 18-22 We could really shake up history!!!

All Hail the new American Empire!....Such greatness the world has Never seen

silly!

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:32 am

He's eye'n up Canada and thinkin' of all that fresh maple syrup on his lovely wifes' crotch...

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:55 am

Shloemoe's deep thoughts o the day....

Thinkin bout a new avatar........what do you think about this guy
calling y'all "dumb dumb's"

exiled to jack's shack for blowing up the jukebox blog....he's bound
to be a little testy...a little pompas...a little....

I think I would like to beat this guys ass!!

In Fact, given the choice between having sex with his ex and
beating his ass?....I'd rather beat that dudes ass!!!...then tattoo
a big dick n balls on his forehead!!!!

....just some thoughts...thanks for letting me share!

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:15 am

I say kick his ass and steal his bracelet.The dickn'balls idea on his forehead is brilliant

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:19 am

Kidnap his ass and steal his clothes and drop him off at Indies' front door bound and gagged with a note attached....
Dear Miche,
Here is a new toy for you to fuck with...
With much regards,Shloe....aaaaaaaahahahahahaha

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:24 am

exiled to jack's shack for blowing up the jukebox blog....he's bound
to be a little testy...a little pompas...a little....

......lemme finish that for ya Shloe.
...a little pompas......a little green dick and balls no bigger than a pea that a princess wouldn't sit on cuz you stink like babyshit in a fully loaded diaper.

.....hows that?

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:27 am

Yeah.....thats you...

.....little green bitch

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:03 pm

thank you dumb dumb!!!!

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:05 pm

Your welcome,little green bitch

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:28 pm

Hm?...Gidge just came and went...didn't say nuthin to you rot?
me either....maybe if you bathed more often more people would
come around?.....I'm just saying...

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:30 pm

I ain't washin' my mouth out.....

jr · Post by jr » Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:51 pm

Glenn wrote:Well I watched the conclusion and all I can say is Clinton sure fucked things up for America.

Thank God we have Bush around to fix things.

jr · Post by jr » Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:54 pm

btw glenn
that is 4 hours (?) of your life that ABC stole that you will never get back
you may want to look into litigation....

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:33 pm

5 hours.

I gotta say I enjoyed it. Very watchable.

I am just the type of person that likes hearing both sides.

I also liked farenhieight 9/11.

Both have equal agenda. One from each side.

I am sure that somebody will have a reply for this movie before long.

40 million bucks to make & no advertising? I wonder how they pulled that off. Ratings is all about the advertising no? I dont know how they made money.

RobertKP · Post by **RobertKP** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:28 pm

Probably produced & payed for by an outside party (as in Republican) who made ABC an offer they couldn't refuse. ABC must have gotten payed well enough that they agreed to air it without commercials.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:03 am

Only thing Im gonna(as opposed to wanna) add here is this page with a funny clip......it kills me everytime....Oh...oh...MURDER!....murder!

...anyways:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4454738.stm

assholitis · Post by **assholitis** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:36 am

Glenn wrote:5 hours.

I gotta say I enjoyed it. Very watchable.

I am just the type of person that likes hearing both sides.

I also liked farenhieight 9/11.

Both have equal agenda. One from each side.

I am sure that somebody will have a reply for this movie before long.

40 million bucks to make & no advertising? I wonder how they pulled that off. Ratings is all about the advertising no? I dont know how they made money.

Well put, Glenn. I try to be someone who considers both sides of every issue myself, which is why I usually think anyone too far on either side of the political scale is nuts. I didn't actually watch the mini series, but the fact that they pinned it on Clinton is pretty funny. I would have just liked to have seen all the Farenheit 9/11 supporters cringe in their seats when they saw this. If someone hails Farenheit as such a great film and ignores the fact that it's completely one-sided, you deserve to have a biased film on the other side of the spectrum like this one.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:56 am

assholitis wrote:
Glenn wrote:5 hours.

I gotta say I enjoyed it. Very watchable.

I am just the type of person that likes hearing both sides.

I also liked farenhieight 9/11.

Both have equal agenda. One from each side.

I am sure that somebody will have a reply for this movie before long.

40 million bucks to make & no advertising? I wonder how they pulled that off. Ratings is all about the advertising no? I dont know how they made money.
Well put, Glenn. I try to be someone who considers both sides of every issue myself, which is why I usually think anyone too far on either side of the political scale is nuts. I didn't actually watch the mini series, but the fact that they pinned it on Clinton is pretty funny. I would have just liked to have seen all the Farenheit 9/11 supporters cringe in their seats when they saw this. If someone hails Farenheit as such a great film and ignores the fact that it's completely one-sided, you deserve to have a biased film on the other side of the spectrum like this one.

So:
Right wing
Rebuplican
-
-
-
-
Assholitis <---- you? ..No Real political Thinking?... a Centrist?
- -
-
-
-
Liberal
Democrat

GUARDS!...GUARDS!....take him(you) away and chop off his head!!!!

Crazy?...shit!...I'll show ya crazy!
The center is the product of opinion polls and encounter groups.
It is the land of the politically hoodwinked

Take him away...take him away...Shloemoe The Great has spoken

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:29 am

I don't really care about politics...I find it boring and unserving to real needs of real people that have real concern.They all lie in office and at campaign time they lie to my face when they come knockin for my vote.I hate em' all...boring,lying cunts in nice clothes and perfucked haircuts.

A few times me and Maddie called our parliament bitch to get answers for whatever and they lie,lie,lie.....then pass the buck to another office.I feel most government workers are fucking drones...emotionless,plastic,and uncaring......except at election time,then they listen and bobble their fuckin head up and down with blank stares saying they can make things better for the working class.

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:33 am

liars.....lie,lie,lie

jr · Post by jr » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:51 am

call me nuts
i like being off center....
it makes me..... human
i dont know.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:32 am

Nuts!.....Nuts! ...you are all nuts!!!!(Shloemoe the great returns to
counting some marbles he has in a bag...and looks up to say...):

I hear ya rot...I dont think I'll ever participate in "the process" again...

About 50% for bush,50% for gore
about 50% for bush,50% for Kerry
...see the pattern here...this is what evils can come from "marketing
and advertising"...Gary Hart said it on The Daily Show...well I forgot
the verbatim statement but basiclly everybody has been coralled in
the center because polititions dont take any real stance on anything.
they say what their polls tell em they should say...and over time
you got a nation of people that dont know the difference between
republican and democrat....more and more there aint a difference.

everyone is either alienated or fucking braindead and in the middle

...Ah too much thinking....Shloemoe must rest.....

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:41 am

Just because you look at both sides of the issues rather than voting one way, the left or the right, does not mean that you are a centrist.

It means that you are not a sucker to the 2 party system and can evaluate on your own opinion. Not the opinion of a mainstream party.

One might find that you neither fit into Democratic or Republican party by doing this. Hardly a centrist.

Someone who looks at the issues and decides for themself, their opinion is not formed or influenced by party lines is far more the individual than the mainstream parties any day of the week.

I dont need the Reublikcans or Democrats telling me hoe I should think on any issue. I can decide for myself thank you.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:29 am

Glenn wrote:Just because you look at both sides of the issues rather than voting one way, the left or the right, does not mean that you are a centrist.

It means that you are not a sucker to the 2 party system and can evaluate on your own opinion. Not the opinion of a mainstream party.

One might find that you neither fit into Democratic or Republican party by doing this. Hardly a centrist.

Someone who looks at the issues and decides for themself, their opinion is not formed or influenced by party lines is far more the individual than the mainstream parties any day of the week.

I dont need the Reublikcans or Democrats telling me hoe I should think on any issue. I can decide for myself thank you.

To be honest we are all talking about 2 different things...what we believe
....and American Politics..sure issues have more than 2 dimensions
...but this is a two party system

There's only two sides to a piece of bread....ya can't butter it
in the middle...If you are working class you vote Democratic...always
If you are rich and want to cut down a forest or exploit the working class
vote Republican...always!
If you want to throw your vote away...dont vote...or vote independent
...always(at least for the time being anyway)(sorry Gidge)

There has rarely been any other choices in our history.
"If ya know what side the bread is buttered on..."..Apply Accordingly
It is not about the issues for us(we are the electorate..we dont make policy)It's about who is going to represent your interests in government
That is how the system is set up...Now what side are you on?

GUARDS!.....Arrest these men!...take the one they call jr to my quarters....(Shloemoe winks to the guards) Shloemoe has spoken!

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:50 pm

Back in the early 90's the redneck state had a woman govenor.
After a triumphant adminstration she lost to G.W. Bush.
Ann Richards has died tonight of cancer at 73...made a cameo on
"King of the Hill" once..had a thing for Bill...what a sweety!

jr · Post by jr » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:27 am

ann richards had moxie..
she was a hell of a quote and she wouldnt back down to anyone
i admired her

the political arena could use more women like her...

RIP ANN!!

assholitis · Post by **assholitis** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:39 am

The Rizen shloemoe wrote:
assholitis wrote:
Glenn wrote:5 hours.

I gotta say I enjoyed it. Very watchable.

I am just the type of person that likes hearing both sides.

I also liked farenhieight 9/11.

Both have equal agenda. One from each side.

I am sure that somebody will have a reply for this movie before long.

40 million bucks to make & no advertising? I wonder how they pulled that off. Ratings is all about the advertising no? I dont know how they made money.
Well put, Glenn. I try to be someone who considers both sides of every issue myself, which is why I usually think anyone too far on either side of the political scale is nuts. I didn't actually watch the mini series, but the fact that they pinned it on Clinton is pretty funny. I would have just liked to have seen all the Farenheit 9/11 supporters cringe in their seats when they saw this. If someone hails Farenheit as such a great film and ignores the fact that it's completely one-sided, you deserve to have a biased film on the other side of the spectrum like this one.
So:
Right wing
Rebuplican
-
-
-
-
Assholitis <---- you? ..No Real political Thinking?... a Centrist?
- -
-
-
-
Liberal
Democrat

GUARDS!...GUARDS!....take him(you) away and chop off his head!!!!

Crazy?...shit!...I'll show ya crazy!
The center is the product of opinion polls and encounter groups.
It is the land of the politically hoodwinked

Take him away...take him away...Shloemoe The Great has spoken

No, dipshit. I actually consider each issue when it comes up. I don't blindly side with the left or the right regardless of what they say. Therefore, I, unlike you, actually think for myself. I don't let a political group control my thoughts and ideas. Now then, go off and follow your flock of sheep off the cliff.

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:47 am

Aaaaaaaahahahaaaaaaaaa

Bahhhhhhhh,Bbahhhhhh......lambchops for dinner tonite

assholitis · Post by **assholitis** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:55 am

Glenn wrote:Just because you look at both sides of the issues rather than voting one way, the left or the right, does not mean that you are a centrist.

It means that you are not a sucker to the 2 party system and can evaluate on your own opinion. Not the opinion of a mainstream party.

One might find that you neither fit into Democratic or Republican party by doing this. Hardly a centrist.

Someone who looks at the issues and decides for themself, their opinion is not formed or influenced by party lines is far more the individual than the mainstream parties any day of the week.

I dont need the Reublikcans or Democrats telling me hoe I should think on any issue. I can decide for myself thank you.

Haha. Well put, Glenn! I couldn't agree with you more. I'm glad to see not everyone here is a retard like Shloe. He believes that by blindly siding liberally on EVERY issue without even thinking about it makes you a real "thinker." In fact, that kind of stupidity represents the very people who DON'T think at all. They just vote for the left without considering what the politician is saying or what his stance is on any important issues. And as for what you said, shloe, that politicians wind up not taking a real position...not true. Bush clearly stated what his objectives and beliefs were. And we STILL voted him in for a second term. Why? Because your almighty liberal candidate couldn't take a stance on any issue. As blatantly incompetant and unqualified as Bush proved himself to be for president, he still defeated Kerry. Doesn't that tell you anything? You want a Democratic president in office, offer the people a choice worth voting for. If not, suffer the consequences of four more years of Bush.

assholitis · Post by **assholitis** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:06 am

The Rizen shloemoe wrote:
Glenn wrote:Just because you look at both sides of the issues rather than voting one way, the left or the right, does not mean that you are a centrist.

It means that you are not a sucker to the 2 party system and can evaluate on your own opinion. Not the opinion of a mainstream party.

One might find that you neither fit into Democratic or Republican party by doing this. Hardly a centrist.

Someone who looks at the issues and decides for themself, their opinion is not formed or influenced by party lines is far more the individual than the mainstream parties any day of the week.

I dont need the Reublikcans or Democrats telling me hoe I should think on any issue. I can decide for myself thank you.
To be honest we are all talking about 2 different things...what we believe
....and American Politics..sure issues have more than 2 dimensions
...but this is a two party system

There's only two sides to a piece of bread....ya can't butter it
in the middle...If you are working class you vote Democratic...always
If you are rich and want to cut down a forest or exploit the working class
vote Republican...always!
If you want to throw your vote away...dont vote...or vote independent
...always(at least for the time being anyway)(sorry Gidge)

There has rarely been any other choices in our history.
"If ya know what side the bread is buttered on..."..Apply Accordingly
It is not about the issues for us(we are the electorate..we dont make policy)It's about who is going to represent your interests in government
That is how the system is set up...Now what side are you on?

GUARDS!.....Arrest these men!...take the one they call jr to my quarters....(Shloemoe winks to the guards) Shloemoe has spoken!

Wow, what a warped view of the voting process. What you don't realize is that you're just as ignorant and closed-minded as all those "redneck" Conservatives you hate so much. You think just because you don't have a southern accent and that you didn't vote for Bush that makes you any more of an intellectualist? According to how you vote, you don't think at all. You merely follow. You're a conformist. Of course, given the type of thought process that I've seen from you, maybe not thinking is a good thing. But still, take my advice. Learn to think for yourself. Don't let a political group (or anyone really, for that matter) tell you what to do or how to think. A real "thinker" is someone who looks into an issue, considers all sides, then only after actual deliberation and evaluation, comes to a conclusion. Not simply looking at what letters comes after the candidate's name.

assholitis · Post by **assholitis** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:11 am

rotter wrote:Aaaaaaaahahahaaaaaaaaa Bahhhhhhhh,Bbahhhhhh......lambchops for dinner tonite

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:40 am

Obviously ass you didn't understand anything that was said huh?

again issues dont control power...voters and politicians do...
this is a two party system...period...in order for your vote to
have a meaningful connection to power you MUST choose one
or the other...red or blue....period...you've obviously never
studied political science...certain(probably most) issues dont
require any thought they are the platform(the parties) issues
..even the propositions are either endorsed or not endorsed
by one or the other(sometimes 3) party...few issues dont...
you watch too much fox news.

This is a simple concept...kinda like the Napoleon thing...yeah
Napoleon conquered europe BECAUSE he was short...Mmmm-K?

...anyway the meddle of your ego prevents you from considering
the truth of anything I say...may I at least recommend ....reading
some books...taking a class?.....think it over

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:37 am

Aaaaaaaaaahahahaha.....you two make my mouth water.....fun shit

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:47 am

At grand ol' election time I listen and record all the views of each party rep and decide what suits my agenda.I listened to the Liberals.....shit I say,you had your fuckin chance and lied.I listened to the Tories platform and to my mind,more lies and retoric gushing from an ass.I listened to the NDP and Jack had a plan...I vote for what feels right and for people with imagination and a map.The conservatives won.....Harper is an asshole number one...just a liberal wearing blue Tory pants

......the weed party did alright.....independants are the corn of the cob!

I may run for Prime Minister one day..never know...and grab the USA by the cock and pull!Nothing says lovin' like standing up to the americans

AAAAAaahahahaha...

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:49 am

oh...btw...we have better beer than you guys

Haha!

Maddie · Post by **Maddie** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:54 am

Grab em by the cock and pull?Get back on your fence and have a beer

Mister Prime Minister of disaster...

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:56 am

Well..if I was Prime Minister spinkster i'd stick it to the Bush

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:59 am

Think about it Madds....we'd have canadian beerfest every month...more holiday,especially in winter for more fucktime and free donuts.Oh yeah.....Bonhomme would be beheaded.....he's a dumbcunt.

Maddie · Post by **Maddie** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:01 pm

What about the americans?

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:07 pm

I'd rid that border shit and we'd become the United States of North America...the currency would be hockey cards and beer the national drink...oh yeah,mandatory fucking in the streets and freespeech

...aahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa

..and legal weed for all the weedheads.

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:18 pm

.....oh ...and if I ever caught BinLaden I'd make him wear a towel on his head wiped on my ass

.....fucker!

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:19 pm

Jr could be parlimentary clevage......

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:20 pm

Shloe can be my secratary of altered states..aaaaaahahahaaaaa

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:24 pm

Glenn.....you are responsible to gather all guns and melt em down and make a big statue of Jonsey from the slag....and a Rotten statue for the Brits and place it in Finsbury Park for the bums to remind them that only lazy people have no say.

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:26 pm

Assholitis.....you are my secratary of perfectly clean cunts....no hairy messes in this cuntry.

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:29 pm

Josie.....you are the war machine.....groundpound and keep them tight asses away from our party...Their God spoils everything...twisted books of watercoloured idiots and fascist regimes......fuck them cunts!I give you this bomb filled with dogshit to drop on non partypeeps.

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:31 pm

Gidge...you are the smartass with cuteass...the moneysexy that works for good party and makes sure the beer keeps flowin free.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:31 pm

The Rizen shloemoe wrote:Obviously ass you didn't understand anything that was said huh?

again issues dont control power...voters and politicians do...
this is a two party system...period...in order for your vote to
have a meaningful connection to power you MUST choose one
or the other...red or blue....period...you've obviously never
studied political science...certain(probably most) issues dont
require any thought they are the platform(the parties) issues
..even the propositions are either endorsed or not endorsed
by one or the other(sometimes 3) party...few issues dont...
you watch too much fox news.

This is a simple concept...kinda like the Napoleon thing...yeah
Napoleon conquered europe BECAUSE he was short...Mmmm-K?

...anyway the meddle of your ego prevents you from considering
the truth of anything I say...may I at least recommend ....reading
some books...taking a class?.....think it over

Not so Shloemoe,

Some people vote their conscious and what they beleive to be is right. There is dignity in that. People who feel they have to vote red or blue to have power, or a wasting their votes, are simply voting for what they dont beleive. There is something wrong with that to me. It's probably why so many people dont vote, they are not being represented.

The red are rich and the blue are working class is such an over simplification it is not funny.

Although there is strong 2 party sytem in the US other countries like New Zealand have changed the system to represent as many parties who win seats. Same as the new iraqi government.

8 years ago Ralph Nadar got 5% (may have been 6%) of the presidential vote which was supposed to enable him to get federal funding as a third party. (When he ran for the Green Party). Of course he was screwed over in the deal somehow. They back dated the law or something. What a ripp off.

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:34 pm

Gooch..you are the face that lauches the ships of promise and your smile is the world.....you get your mug on the twenty dollar billy.You are the keeper of goodness and goddess of good taste....morrisey for the national anthem!

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:37 pm

Tom...you are the minister of fuckin concerts...entertain us with good billings.....no Avril!

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:38 pm

.....and Jack...yeah Jack...you are the minister of keeping serious people outta my face...they bore me to death.

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:40 pm

those fuckin boring serious people I just want to piss on.....

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:50 pm

rotter wrote:Glenn.....you are responsible to gather all guns and melt em down and make a big statue of Jonsey from the slag....and a Rotten statue for the Brits and place it in Finsbury Park for the bums to remind them that only lazy people have no say.

Consider it done.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:16 pm

Glenn wrote:
The Rizen shloemoe wrote:Obviously ass you didn't understand anything that was said huh?

again issues dont control power...voters and politicians do...
this is a two party system...period...in order for your vote to
have a meaningful connection to power you MUST choose one
or the other...red or blue....period...you've obviously never
studied political science...certain(probably most) issues dont
require any thought they are the platform(the parties) issues
..even the propositions are either endorsed or not endorsed
by one or the other(sometimes 3) party...few issues dont...
you watch too much fox news.

This is a simple concept...kinda like the Napoleon thing...yeah
Napoleon conquered europe BECAUSE he was short...Mmmm-K?

...anyway the meddle of your ego prevents you from considering
the truth of anything I say...may I at least recommend ....reading
some books...taking a class?.....think it over

Not so Shloemoe,

Some people vote their conscious and what they beleive to be is right. There is dignity in that. People who feel they have to vote red or blue to have power, or a wasting their votes, are simply voting for what they dont beleive. There is something wrong with that to me. It's probably why so many people dont vote, they are not being represented.

Right!...There IS something wrong with that..but that's how it IS...starting to feel like the pope

The red are rich and the blue are working class is such an over simplification it is not funny.

yes it is an oversimplifacation...for the purposes of this disscusion.... people who vote republican and are not rich are either
seeking to become rich...voting on tax concerns...voting on bible
concerns...or something else the rich convinced them was their own
....some examples of those who might vote republican.

Although there is strong 2 party sytem in the US other countries like New Zealand have changed the system to represent as many parties who win seats. Same as the new iraqi government.

Yes America is insane

8 years ago Ralph Nadar got 5% (may have been 6%) of the presidential vote which was supposed to enable him to get federal funding as a third party. (When he ran for the Green Party). Of course he was screwed over in the deal somehow. They back dated the law or something. What a ripp off.

I would have voted for him too had he not seemed the kinda guy who would be unwilling to use military force when need be...two party
system buddy...off the ballot with ya...

Im kinda feeling like Socrates did about democracy.

In general when the planet has been sucked dry because people voted to support the
rich over their own interests(and felt they were voting their conscious)
when the forests are gone and it's a hot as hell free for all....maybe
democracy wasn't such a good idea after all?...im not saying that's you
guys...it's just that popularity contests are no way to run a society......
anybody remember high school?

Shloemoe rest now...maybe later look in classifieds for post apocolyptic
bad ass car to pick up chicks in

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:39 pm

glenn said:
The red are rich and the blue are working class is such an over simplification it is not funny.

you know what's funny about that?...Blue used to be the color
associated with the republicans(true blue)..and red used to be
associated with the democrats(Commy reds)

The news media changed all that with their domographic maps
over the last few elections
...there's just a small harmless example of how effective the
rich can be in what they do.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:44 pm

oh crap I've forgot to address the elitist perspective on this....
It doesn't matter a bit what you n I think at all...what matters
is what the rich and powerful think...Democrat/Republican
cannot gain office without the support of the rich...

Be sure to

Buy lots of premium toilet paper

...cause that's what cute bears in the forest use

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:35 pm

The Rizen shloemoe wrote:
Buy lots of premium toilet paper

Amen to Northern Quilt.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:16 pm

Glenn wrote:
The Rizen shloemoe wrote:
Buy lots of premium toilet paper

Amen to Northern Quilt.

ya know Shloemoe likes the jalepenos!...past couple days my ass wipe has been a bit blood spotty?.....maybe there's is something to be said for premium tp?....."My name is cornholio!....I need "superior" tp for my bunghole"!!!!...butt, fuck it!...I buy my tp at the $.99 store.....oooohhhh!

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:27 pm

fuck tp......i don't wipe my ass...shit n'go

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:30 pm

Glenn wrote:
The Rizen shloemoe wrote:
Buy lots of premium toilet paper

Amen to Northern Quilt.

Quality tp made in Canada from trees from the great American virgin forests

I say we send em sandpaper!

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:36 pm

Shloemoe said:

Shloemoe rest now...maybe later look in classifieds for post apocolyptic
bad ass car to pick up chicks in..

Hey Shloe.....all you need is cock...I guess you'll have to pull it outta your ass to go trollin for fish.....hehehe

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:43 pm

ya know rotman..I've had me butt stimulated with the girls before...and I think i kinda like it

...along with the other bells n whistles...but the cock thing? ...there's too much hair and testostorone involved with that
um...If i was gay I think I'd be coming on to you sweety!...giant squash
-man

C'mon maddie tell us about Rot's "dark" obsession!

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:11 pm

....do you mean to tell me chicks lick your asshole?

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:16 pm

rotter wrote:....do you mean to tell me chicks lick your asshole?

They have!....MMMMM!

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