World War III?

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:01 am

UK sailors captured at gunpoint

Commodore reacts
Fifteen British Navy personnel have been captured at gunpoint by Iranian forces, the Ministry of Defence says.
The men were seized at 1030 local time when they boarded a boat in the Gulf, off the coast of Iraq, which they suspected was smuggling cars.

The Royal Navy said the men who were on a routine patrol in Iraqi waters, were understood to be unharmed.

Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett has demanded the immediate and safe return of the HMS Cornwall servicemen.

She added that she had called for a "full explanation" from Iran and had left them in no doubt that she wanted the group and their equipment back immediately.

The frigate's commander, Commodore Nick Lambert, said he was hoping there had been a "simple mistake" over territorial waters.

"There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they [British personnel] were in Iraqi territorial waters. Equally, the Iranians may claim they were in Iranian territorial waters.

"We may well find that this is a simple misunderstanding at the tactical level."

Helicopters had reported seeing two British boats being moved along the Shatt al-Arab waterway to Iranian bases and there had been no evidence of fighting, he added.

HMS Cornwall's area of operations
He said that despite scant communication, the 15 people were understood to be safe and had reacted in an "extremely professional way, in line with the rules of engagement".

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Type 22 frigate
Crew: 250 (Max 301)
Length: 148.1m / 485.9ft
Speed: 30 knots
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Ex-detainee 'concerned'

Mrs Beckett said: "We understand that they were in two boats that were operating in Iraqi waters in accordance with the Security Council Resolution 1723 in support of the government of Iraq to stop smuggling."

On Friday afternoon, the Iranian ambassador in London, Rasoul Movahedian, met permanent secretary, Sir Peter Ricketts, at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

The foreign secretary said the meeting had been "brisk but polite" and said the British ambassador in Iran had also been speaking to officials in Tehran.

There has been no immediate response so far from Iran, where many ministries and official buildings were closed for a public holiday.

Servicemen would have been in boats similar to those pictured

Shadow foreign secretary William Hague and Sir Menzies Campbell, leader of the Liberal Democrats, have both backed the call for the group's immediate and safe return.

Commodore Kevin Aandahl, of the US Navy Fifth Fleet based in the same region, backed the Royal Navy's claims that their boats had been in Iraqi waters.

He added that the Royal Navy personnel should be given credit for a "very cool" response and not escalating the situation.

The incident comes at a time of renewed tensions with Iran over its nuclear programme and follows claims that most of the violence against UK forces in Basra is being engineered by Iranian elements.

British Army Colonel Justin Maciejewski, who is based in Iraq, said Iran was providing "sophisticated weaponry" to insurgents and "Iranian agents" were paying local men to attack British troops.

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Tense backdrop to incident

Iranian officials have in the past denied such claims.

In 2004, Iran detained eight British servicemen for three days after they allegedly strayed over the maritime border.

The UK claimed the men were "forcibly escorted" into Iranian territorial waters.

The men were paraded blindfolded and made to apologise on Iranian TV before their release was agreed.

The BBC's diplomatic correspondent James Robbins said the difference this time is that the present Iranian government under President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was much more hardline.

"The political climate is worse with Britain among those confronting Iran over its controversial nuclear programme," he added.

ChispaFilthyLucre · Post by **ChispaFilthyLucre** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:24 am

hahaha!!! III WAR?
I dont care.
he is the Captain
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The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:31 am

They think such behavior enhances their
global prestige...there's probably a bunch
of educated people in their state Dept. going,
"Jeez our leaders are imbiciles"...but not saying
it very loud....

...There is but one god ,Allah ...and mohammad
is his prophet...WLWLWLWLWLWLWLWLWLWLW!!!!

Theocracies....we need to throw bugs bunny into
that mix

that'a fix em!

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:35 am

Well, let's see what happens. This situation has the potential to make things much worse with Iran and the rest of the middle east.

The politicians dont give a rats ass about those protestors. They will all go to the aid of the British sailors regardless of their party lines that is 100%.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:38 am

That story was from the BBC. I read the same story on 4 differnt accounts, FOX, CNN, BBC & YAHOO and they are all so obviously bias in their own way. They dont try to hide it these days.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:44 am

Glenn wrote:Well, let's see what happens. This situation has the potential to make things much worse with Iran and the rest of the middle east.

The politicians dont give a rats ass about those protestors. They will all go to the aid of the British sailors regardless of their party lines that is 100%.

...naw...sabre rattling....the world is getting ready to
impose more strict sanctions and they're trying to say
"look I ma big bad dude"...as soon as face saving time
permits they'll release em...and say they did it(released)
cause their a peace loving nation...not like the great
satan war loving US n UK...er something....I dunno

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:19 pm

I hate to sound like a negative nay sayer but I've heard it said before on Jack's Shack...

WE ARE DOOMED!

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:28 pm

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:44 pm

ChispaFilthyLucre wrote:hahaha!!! III WAR?
I dont care.
he is the Captain
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hey who is that guy anyways?

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:17 am

rotter · Post by **rotter** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:20 am

cap'n sensible...

DIsPervertNurse · Post by **DIsPervertNurse** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:29 pm

The Rizen shloemoe wrote:
ChispaFilthyLucre wrote:hahaha!!! III WAR?
I dont care.
he is the Captain
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j293/ ... OPSOUT.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>
hey who is that guy anyways?

He is ONLY the one of the most important figures in punk rock history!!! Since the Damned were the first UK punk rock on record...NOT the Sex Pistols!!! Capt Sensible is DA MAN...see...ya'll know my love for The Adicts....but there is one other band that I'm more deeply in love with andthat be The Damned. Have a great tattoo in their honor in fact.

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:47 pm

Oh...well just goes to show ya how much the shloe
knows...ya know I never listened to too much damned

oh...heya Nursy!!!!

ChispaFilthyLucre · Post by **ChispaFilthyLucre** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:52 am

DIsPervertNurse wrote:
The Rizen shloemoe wrote:
ChispaFilthyLucre wrote:hahaha!!! III WAR?
I dont care.
he is the Captain
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j293/ ... OPSOUT.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>
hey who is that guy anyways?
He is ONLY the one of the most important figures in punk rock history!!! Since the Damned were the first UK punk rock on record...NOT the Sex Pistols!!! Capt Sensible is DA MAN...see...ya'll know my love for The Adicts....but there is one other band that I'm more deeply in love with andthat be The Damned. Have a great tattoo in their honor in fact.

thanks for the explanation pervertNurse

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:38 pm

ChispaFilthyLucre wrote:
DIsPervertNurse wrote:
The Rizen shloemoe wrote: hey who is that guy anyways?
He is ONLY the one of the most important figures in punk rock history!!! Since the Damned were the first UK punk rock on record...NOT the Sex Pistols!!! Capt Sensible is DA MAN...see...ya'll know my love for The Adicts....but there is one other band that I'm more deeply in love with andthat be The Damned. Have a great tattoo in their honor in fact.

thanks for the explanation pervertNurse

She said "Captain"
I said "WOT"
She said "Captain"
I said "WOT"
She said "Captain"
I said "WOT"
She said "Captain"
I said "WOT YOU WANT!"

ChispaFilthyLucre · Post by **ChispaFilthyLucre** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:03 am

yeah its time to dance with Cap

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:22 pm

Glenn wrote:Well, let's see what happens. This situation has the potential to make things much worse with Iran and the rest of the middle east.

The politicians dont give a rats ass about those protestors. They will all go to the aid of the British sailors regardless of their party lines that is 100%.

Well all's well that ends well...big hugs to the Iranians
and gifts for the Brits...

Boy what a screwball country is Iran...huh?

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:27 pm

Yeah,

I was following the story pretty closely and it seemed pretty bad for a while.

I hope the Brits thank Iran for the new gift.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:55 am

ok so they are free.\\//Shloe was right. I am still predicting war with Iran before to long, So once again I say...

We are doomed!

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:37 pm

I am the son of a drunken bigot quasi-philosopher
...I have a pathological need to be correct...

...consequently I am often.....

Notice we haven't heard much from Israel on
this Iran nuke program?...when Iran is just about
to go "nuke ready" expect to hear from Israel.
..if not sooner

They are probably the #1 determining factor in
what is going to happen in that region...though
the U.N. and U.S. will have to play that down...
...diplomacy?...sanctions?...AIRSTRIKES!!!!!???

...

Salom All

War is not where our doom will come....

ChispaFilthyLucre · Post by **ChispaFilthyLucre** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:29 am

Fuck israel fuck usa fuck iran...
many people live in a continued war in other parts of the planet,
just I wanna say FUCK OFF POLITICS....
please send a nuclear bomb now,
.happy 1 year if it is important to you, Im drinking a whisky Mr philosofo

ChispaFilthyLucre · Post by **ChispaFilthyLucre** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:30 am

excuse me friends Im not doomed

The Rizen shloemoe · Post by **The Rizen shloemoe** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:56 pm

ChispaFilthyLucre wrote:Fuck israel fuck usa fuck iran...
many people live in a continued war in other parts of the planet,
just I wanna say FUCK OFF POLITICS....
please send a nuclear bomb now,
.happy 1 year if it is important to you, Im drinking a whisky Mr philosofo

Yes Senor Chispa I hear what you are saying.
I believe it was Einstein who once said,
"Nationalism is like the measles of humanity,
an infantile disease"....but we're a long way
from tipperary...till then wars...and rumors
of wars....and drunken philosophers....