Is Indie Really Indie?

obiwankobe · Post by **obiwankobe** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:03 pm

I'm starting to think Inide really isn't so indie afterall. First of all most of the stuff they play is on major labels, or secretly owned by a major label. Secondly I have DirecTV and they have music / radio "channels", and they play the same exact stuff Indie does. Guess what the name of the channel is ? Alternative. Also have you noticed how every new band is an "indie" band. That's all the music reviews say-new indie band. Also if you read the LA Times once a week there is a cover story on "indie" music or a new "indie" band. If you want to take a look at http://www.pitchforkmedia.com, it was the subject of a story in the Calendar session last week. Don't get me wrong I like "indie" music or what ever you want to call it. I'm just saying is the last successful money making endevor any of the major labels had was in the early mid-90's with "Alternative" & "Brit Pop". I am more inclined to label Indie 103.1 an "Alternative" music station. An example of a pure play "indie" channel is KCRW.
Mind you ALL I am talking about is the music, not the specialty shows, i.e. Jonesy.
I'm just curious if anyone else is seeing this "indie" movement already starting to break into the main stream.
I mean, I watched some of the PAC-10 (Men's College Basketball) Tournament last week and they are previewing the games with The Zutons "Pressure Point" & going to commercial with The Bravery "Honest Mistake".
Just curious as to what you think?

p.s.
Here's my business plan for Clear Channel by the way. Sell KROQ, bring Kevin & Bean to Indie 103.1 and use all their cash to promote it. They'd make a killing. Not that I want that to happen but if it was up to me to try to make money off of a radio station that's what I would do.

-tom

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:50 pm

Clearly Indie are a corporate station and I don't think that claim not to be. They sell advertising don't they? Indie pop/indie rock although used to refer to non main stream bands/labels has been produced by major labels or pseudo indie labels for years. It's no secret.

Ask the Cure. Clash, Sex Pistols. The list goes on.

To me it is the integrity of the music not so much as who produces ir as long as the bands are treated failry.

Post by **jack** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:06 pm

p.s.
Here's my business plan for Clear Channel by the way. Sell KROQ, bring Kevin & Bean to Indie 103.1 and use all their cash to promote it. They'd make a killing. Not that I want that to happen but if it was up to me to try to make money off of a radio station that's what I would do.

-tom

Ewww... Kevin and Bean, make them stay on KROQ!

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:14 pm

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p.s.
Here's my business plan for Clear Channel by the way. Sell KROQ, bring Kevin & Bean to Indie 103.1 and use all their cash to promote it. They'd make a killing. Not that I want that to happen but if it was up to me to try to make money off of a radio station that's what I would do.

-tom[/quote]

Problem is that Viacom own KROQ not Clear Channels.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:19 pm

obiwankobe wrote: They'd make a killing. Not that I want that to happen but if it was up to me to try to make money off of a radio station that's what I would do.

-tom

Is it just me or does this quote thing not work proper.

Hey. if Indie make a killing good for them. As long as the music is right.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:55 pm

robert · Post by **robert** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:15 pm

The more i think about it the more i believe that this station has too many "regular station" leanings. The replay of major label stuff. I have requested the Vandals a ton of times, but never have i heard them on indie.

But the thing that puts me over the edge is the constant replay. I repsect what Mike Steele has done, but his pop background is prevelent in the amount of play and replay that most songs get. Diversity is the key. More variety. Please

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:59 pm

I was thinking the other day...ok...you can clean your collective monitors now...I should have warned you all before I said that and you took a sip of your sodas....anyway.....I was wondring if the djs KNOW that there are other Stiff Little Fingers and XRay Spec songs...don't get me wrong, I love Alternative Ulster and Oh Bondage! Up Yours, but the other songs on both of those CDs are great as well...Nobody's Hero....Barbed Wire Love....White Noise....I Am a Poseur...the Day the World Turned Day Glow...etc etc etc.....

MicheBel · Post by **MicheBel** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:50 pm

Yeah, but remember, they are walking a fine line right now. And especially in this transition moment, they have to look all corporate friendly and nice for advertisers. They still play enough diversity to keep me happy most days.

--Miche

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:22 am

I honestly don't see any of other songs that I mentioned even vaguley dangerous. I suppose the listening audience has grown accustomed to them making them safer and I am all for protecting the station, I just like the whole "flying without a net" feeling.

MicheBel · Post by **MicheBel** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:30 pm

Yes, she does. Oh yes, she does.

<------------shakes head

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:36 am

hehehehehehe

Post by **jack** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:44 am

Glenn wrote:
obiwankobe wrote: They'd make a killing. Not that I want that to happen but if it was up to me to try to make money off of a radio station that's what I would do.

-tom
Is it just me or does this quote thing not work proper.

Hey. if Indie make a killing good for them. As long as the music is right.

It works fine, you just need to make sure the brackets line up.

poopeejohnny · Post by **poopeejohnny** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:47 pm

jack wrote:
Glenn wrote:
obiwankobe wrote: They'd make a killing. Not that I want that to happen but if it was up to me to try to make money off of a radio station that's what I would do.

-tom
Is it just me or does this quote thing not work proper.

Hey. if Indie make a killing good for them. As long as the music is right.
It works fine, you just need to make sure the brackets line up.

ha ha ha he he he

indie is corporate sell out

woooaaa he he he

MicheBel · Post by **MicheBel** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:49 pm

Good god, who let Poopee Johnny in?

Where's our forum bouncer?

--Miche

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:59 pm

Hi poopeejohnny

I hope you gonna be better behaved this time.

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:04 pm

I say we knock Poopee down and take his wallet.

assholitis · Post by **assholitis** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:47 pm

Is Indie Really Indie?

Yes, it is. I think we can lock up this thread now.

-Kevin, the Mountie of Orange County

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:50 pm

Awwww...I was just getting in touch with me inner ultra violence.

Mr Shovel · Post by **Mr Shovel** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:58 pm

What's corporate about "Oh Bondage, Up Yours!"?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:59 pm

Mr Shovel wrote:What's corporate about "Oh Bondage, Up Yours!"?

It's financed by the KY Jelly Corporation?

MicheBel · Post by **MicheBel** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:14 am

Anyone who thinks Indie is a "corporate" radio station really hasn't been listening to actual corporate radio much.

Sure Indie plays some songs over and over. Like what's on right now: Riot Radio. They could play this 80 times a day, and I wouldn't get sick of it.

Remember, please, back in the days when radio was good, the whole repetition thing was created to get people accustomed to new music enough that they'd want to buy it. I see nothing wrong with that.

As much as they've played some songs (I Predict a Riot) past their welcome, there are others (Common People) that I wished they hadn't pulled so soon. All in all, Indie rocks in a way no other station (except maybe 94.9) does.

--Miche

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:54 am

I love/adore Common People! I burned a copy of it straight away! Got it in my car and the office, on two separate CDs.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:20 pm

Anonymous wrote:
Mr Shovel wrote:What's corporate about "Oh Bondage, Up Yours!"?
It's financed by the KY Jelly Corporation?

Somethings just shoot right past my head.

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:57 pm

hehehehehehe Glen...you wicked wicked man. Commere and gimme a kiss!!!

MicheBel · Post by **MicheBel** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:57 pm

<---------------hands Glenn a Kleenex TM

--Miche

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:59 pm

~puckers up~

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:23 pm

FRENCHY

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:29 pm

Oh Glenn...you should see me tie a cherry stem in a knot....hehehehehehehe

MicheBel · Post by **MicheBel** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:22 pm

Cherry stems, she's good with. Bottle caps? Not so much.

--Miche

gidgetgoestohell · Post by **gidgetgoestohell** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:56 pm

hehehehehehehehe. Also, not so good with forkyspoonies. I HAVE A FORKKKKKKKK!!! ~waving a knife~

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